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Andy Stanley’s Subtle Liberalization

July 1, 2024
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Those with more liberal theology tend to be more secretive about it while those with more conservative theology tend to be very open and straightforward about it, and this has been the case for quite some  time. The “liberal theologians” of Jesus’ day were the Sadducees. I have read that they would often hide their views from those outside their inner circle, effecting a slow liberalization of the people they influenced. 

Which  reminds me of Andy Stanley. He seems to be making a concerted effort to slowly introduce a new, liberal theology into his historically conservative congregation. And he does so by attempting  to baby step them towards his views while not being truly open about what those views are. As such, he can convert as much of his congregation to his position by boiling the proverbial frog. I’ve seen this sort of thing happen a number of times over the years. A prominent Christian privately compromises on some very important issues such that his theology has some big problems. But, since his following has a large number of Christians who believe those things, he introduces his new compromised teachings slowly and strategically. The goal is to lose as few followers as possible while introducing these new teachings. At a minimum, he needs to keep enough of the congregation to continue functioning financially and to keep from being ousted as a pastor. Andy Stanley, who not only pastors tens of thousands but has also become a coach for pastors around the world, seems to be consciously aware of this process. He has taught other pastors not to change theology too quickly for their congregations in an attempt to retain as many people as possible as you shift to different teachings than your church has historically known.¹

Whilst the  Sadducees denied the resurrection, liberal theologians are rarely so straightforward about such offenses. Instead, the Sadducees could say that they affirmed a kind of resurrection in the fact that your children and grandchildren live on after you die. This is a poetic way of treating the topic. But it didn’t stop the Holy Spirit from describing them as, “the Sadducees, who say there is no resurrection,” (Mt 22:23) because redefining the resurrection in such a way was a denial of it. It reminds me of guys like John Dominic Crossan, the famous liberal scholar who denied that he denied the resurrection. He taught that while Jesus didn’t physically rise from the dead it was still true that he metaphorically resurrected. Being able to wax poetic about the deep and powerful meaning of the metaphor of Christ’s resurrection allowed Crossan to appeal to the hearts of many. He could even teach a whole sermon about how amazing and important the resurrection of Jesus is. If he was very careful with his words the majority of his hearers wouldn’t even notice his heretical theology. Andy Stanley, while he definitely affirms the literal resurrection of Christ, has a number of other teachings that are increasingly problematic.

So what exactly does Stanley believe?  Well, he has for instance taught his congregation that Christianity needs to “unhitch from the Old Testament.” In some instances, he makes it sound like he just doesn’t want to complicate evangelism with having to answer a thousand hard questions about the Old Testament, which seems somewhat reasonable. When I’m trying to lead someone to Jesus, I don’t want to have distractions on secondary questions clogging up the conversation. But in reality  it’s more than that. If you listen very carefully, you’ll see that Andy isn’t just recommending a strategy for keeping an evangelistic conversation on track but is actually teaching the church that we should not have a confident belief in the Old Testament as the word of God. Oh, he may affirm that it is the word of God in a similar way that Crossan affirms the resurrection of Jesus, but with a meaning very different than the true one. It seems to me that Stanley, rather than merely wanting to avoid distractions during evangelism, sees the Old Testament as presenting a picture of God which  he  wants to reject outright. 

I recall reading his book Irresistible and found that it was chock full of this sort of thing. In it, he makes various efforts to increase evangelism, which may even have some degree of success, but which are ultimately anchored in false thinking and unbiblical ideas. Evangelism, or perhaps I should say numbers, are the bait that lures in well-meaning Christians and church leaders, but the hook is wrong teaching. I’ve even  seen Andy respond to criticism of the hook as though people are criticizing the bait, thereby drawing a picture of his critics as being opposed to evangelism, and that they are the reason why people are leaving the church. 

Much more can be said about his teaching, his waffling on LGBT issues, his commitment to pragmatism to the degree that it is greatly impacting his theology, or even his laudable desire to reach those outside the church (though what he will eventually reach them with is a bit uncertain). But in all of this, it certainly seems to me like there are frogs in the pot and the heat is rising.. My recommendation is that Christians unhitch from Andy Stanley before things get even worse. While we don’t want to become paranoid, Christians would be wise to recognize the direction in which their leaders are moving them and should consider  whether continuing to follow such  leaders is continuing to follow Christ.

¹ https://x.com /ryanvisconti/status/1618498477838962688

 

Andy Stanley’s Subtle Liberalization

19,487 Views | 7 Replies | Last: 5 mo ago by mariail
ajq6574
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It's a huge red flag when you have to ask a million questions just to get to the heart of an issue. Stanley reminds me of a Mormon who will assure you that you believe the same things. However, after careful probing, you will finally arrive at the conclusion that he, like LDS, are using the same words as you, just with different meanings. Infuriating!
Shino
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The title of the post should be something like 'Unhitch from Andy Stanley' It's good to see your articles brother Mike. Will be following this site now onward.
Can I suggest you guys to add Reftagger from logos or similar for the website since you'll be using Bible verses for the posts. God bless the ministry.
Braeden H
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If there's one thing a Christian, and perhaps especially a pastor, should be able to do it's speak clearly and unequivocally about what we believe. Even if its unpopular or if there's disagreement. Talking and learning is how we work through those things.
Elusiveness and ambiguity don't serve any good purpose.
Freak222
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Seems like most of the church is getting away from the truth. that bothers me more than any athiest ever could.
Meg Head
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I appreciate this article and this site. I've registered on here now! Another thing- I think the people in our life, with whom we are often sharing truth, each have their preferences. For many, articles are the best medium. For others, video. It's another reason I'm excited about this.
J.j.923
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I was lamenting Andy's teaching series on Unhitching from the Bible in 2016 or so, and a friend challenged me to read Irresistible so I could understand where Andy was coming from. I would get so mad every 1-2 pages I'd have to walk away from the book. His charichature (sp?) of the scriptures was maddening. It will be interesting to see where Northview is in 10 years, unfortunately.
mariail
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Having attended and then left Andy Stanley's NorthPoint Ministries Churches for the very reasons that Mike lists, I can attest that this is 100% true. Andy's sermons tend to be detached from the text of the Bible and are more self-help sessions than anything. Andy and his network of churches are all about attendance. They want as many people through the door as possible with little to no discipleship after that. I was present when he preached the sermon that led to the book Irresistible where he advocates for the detachment of New Testament Christians from the Old Testament seemingly forgetting that without the Old Testament we would not be able to understand the fulfillment of God's promises that came to us in the New Testament. His most egregious detachment from Biblical Christianity came recently with his LGBTQ conference where they hosted speakers who were actively engaged in homosexual relationships. As a whole, Andy Stanley's proverbial frog in the post is very close to boiling his congregation.
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